As part of a three-part series for TIME and ESSENCE magazines, world-famous ballerina Misty Copeland and President Obama sat down with TIME reporter Maya Rhodan to discuss race, the Black Lives Matter movement, activism, Black Girl Magic, and more.

The President on body image:

“…when you’re a Dad of two daughters, you notice more…the enormous pressure that young women are placed under in terms of looking a certain way…and that pressure I think it historically always been harder on African-American women than just about any other women.”

“And the fact that (my daughters) have a tall, gorgeous Mom who has some curves, and that their father appreciates, I think it’s helpful.”

Misty Copeland shared her thoughts on Black Girl Magic, the movement created by CaShawn Thompson to celebrate and encourage black women and girls

“…to have movements like ‘Black Girl Magic’, I think it couldn’t be more positive for a young Black girl to see that it’s okay to be yourself, it’s okay to not have to transform and look like what you may see on the cover of a lot of magazines. That you are beautiful, that it’s possible to succeed in any field that you want to, looking the way that you do. With your hair the way it is.”

Watch more below.